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Is Joe Goldberg The Final Villain Of Netflix’s ‘You’ Afterall?

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Penn Badgley got candid about the ending of You’s season 4 ending. Everyone’s favorite stalker and murderer has been tricking the audience into thinking he’s the victim this whole time in the latest season. Is anyone really surprised? Joe Goldberg has managed to gain a reputation for being a prolific murderer. However, this time around, Rhys Montrose is the one leading Joe on, only for the final twist to reveal that the whole time, Rhys wasn’t real in the first place. Audience members gasp and look in awe as it’s revealed that Joe was talking to himself the whole time he’s shown talking to Rhys.

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In the end, we see Joe get convinced that the only way to stop this vicious cycle of kidnapping women and killing them is to kill himself. He throws himself, as well as Rhys(his dark side), into a river only to be saved by a police patrol boat later on, leaving space for a return in the next season. The show ends with Joe and Kate being reunited. 

According to actor Penn Badgley, Goldberg has further places to fall into. The character now has new power and people to manipulate. But will there ever be a sound conclusion? Will Joe Goldberg ever suffer for his crimes? Badgley offers his piece of advice:

 “it’ll probably be this spectacular resolution that everybody’s hoping it could be, because now he has further to fall. He has power, and the stakes are high. He’s not just some guy anymore.”

Of course, one of the biggest twists was when it was revealed that Rhys was just Joe all along. A lot of work and writing prowess worked into the twist. Badgley opened up about how the team worked up to the twist:

“I’m really so glad to hear that, because they weren’t written in two parts.” Said Badgley when asked about the shocking twist, which was delivered in two parts of season 4. “ So all that time for people to think about it made me a little bit nervous, to be honest. I’m sure it makes the showrunners nervous — well, I don’t know because Netflix in its algorithm seems to be pretty confident that we’ll be alright. But, I love it. Because, here’s the thing: As an actor, I got the best of both worlds, and I think Joe does too, and thereby, so does the viewer. So, we all get it. He’s real enough that he’s a different person. Can you imagine how insufferable it would feel if I was playing his [alter ego]? I mean… it might be fun. It might be compelling. But, we did get a taste of that in season three, when Joe and Joe were having their bit, and I actually did really like that. But man, the amount of time that would have taken, it’s so different.”

In the end, Kate and her power bring a new narrative for Joe to live in peace and power. But this just puts more power in the hands of killer Joe Goldberg. Badgley talked about how his not being brought to Justice can make the series move forward in the future:

“That’s a question for the writers and for Netflix as to the whereabouts of season five [which has yet to be ordered]. What I like is that it actually puts us in a new place, because as much as we like watching the arc of Joe, we also want him to be brought to justice,” said Badgley  “… What is it that people want? And, what is actual justice? They’re not necessarily the same thing. So, I’m not sure.

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